[Night 5] Metal Gear Solid Mafia

[nadroj15]

Powerdaan, what happened to your suspicions of Gerkuman?  You haven't mentioned him yet Day 2, even though you wanted to lynch him yesterday.

[Zilla]

Hey Daan.  I played one round on old!VG back when he was Professor Rhetoric.  Technically, I played Balrog's CRMM round with him as well, but he made a grand total of like three posts before he died.

Re: Liquid's hit on the Professor (assuming it wasn't CJ), there is a driver.  Possibilities.

[Nego]

Nego - I had a rather odd convo with Nego last night, and I don't know what to think of it. He's 50% town IMO.

There was nothing odd about the convo. I was just testing you to get more information. It's what you should be doing too.

Away probably didn't get hit because Liquid used his power. Although why Liquid chose Professor, I really don't know. Even Away seems to be confused.

May I enquire from you how is it that you know that Liquid chose Professor and not CJ? I mean, I have no clue which one was the Mafia hit and which one the Liquid hit. Care to elaborate?



Also, I will be posting a list of my FoS' later today. Right now I'm quite busy with everything until the night (just give me a few hours and I'll post the list).




EDIT: Ok, it seems that Powerdaan has been spreading that convo log around. Might as well just post it right here:

Session Start (negsnego:Powerdaan): Sun Dec 06 20:54:57 2009
[20:55] negsnego: Hello
[20:55] Powerdaan: Hey
[20:55] negsnego: So, what kinds of things have you guys been planning?
[20:55] Powerdaan: O_o
[20:55] Powerdaan: You guys?
[20:56] Powerdaan: What?
[20:56] Powerdaan: I'm not in the TW
[20:56] Powerdaan: lol
[20:56] negsnego: Yes. You guys. The Mafia.
[20:56] Powerdaan: Oh lol
[20:56] Powerdaan: I'm not a mafian.
[20:56] negsnego: Oh, you aren't? I could have sworn you were.
[20:56] Powerdaan: I could've sworn I'm not =P
[20:57] Powerdaan: And now you're going to say you have an investigation report and that you got me as a guilty result, am I correct?
[20:58] Powerdaan: Because I know the tricks as well
[20:58] negsnego: Sure.
[20:58] negsnego: Nah, I'm not going to say anything like that.
[20:58] Powerdaan: So do you have any evidence that I'm a mafian?
[20:59] negsnego: Well, that's what I've been able to deduct based on some things.
[20:59] Powerdaan: Ah.
[20:59] Powerdaan: Because I've been lurking in barely posting?
[20:59] Powerdaan: I have a good reason for that
[21:00] negsnego: No, not really that.
[21:00] Powerdaan: Ah.
[21:00] negsnego: More like what you have been posting.
[21:00] Powerdaan: If I'm a mafian, I stay in the background.
[21:00] negsnego: And the fact that the two of us haven't really had any discussions lately.
[21:00] Powerdaan: I know the game better than most of you think I do.
[21:00] negsnego: And you are staying in the background.
[21:00] Powerdaan: I'm not.
[21:01] negsnego: Yes you are.
[21:01] Powerdaan: I'm playing more aggresive than I usually am.
[21:01] Powerdaan: I started the vote on Gerk.
[21:01] negsnego: You're rarely posting or having any contacts.
[21:01] Powerdaan: I've been busy for the two days this game has been played
[21:01] negsnego: Which was a really stupid vote at that.
[21:01] Powerdaan: If you payed attention, I was barely on yesterday.
[21:01] negsnego: I haven't really seen you posting to be honest.
[21:01] Powerdaan: And I didn't have time to analyse stuff.
[21:01] negsnego: True, but what about before that?
[21:01] Powerdaan: Yesterday was a national holiday in my country.
[21:02] Powerdaan: And the day before I bought gifts because of that holiday.
[21:02] Powerdaan: That's it.
[21:02] negsnego: Ok.
[21:02] negsnego: Good enough.
[21:02] negsnego: But it still does not explain your posts.
[21:03] Powerdaan: Ask and I'll explain.
[21:04] negsnego: Ok. H/o.
[21:07] negsnego: Ok, here's the thing.
[21:08] negsnego: Your first post this game.
[21:08] negsnego: "Yay I got my PM.
 Also Blood I love you forever because you play pokemon and I <3 you.
 
 Anyways, I think that Away^2 is probably Ocelet, because if he isn't then the real Ocelet is a moron. ><
 Obviously, we can't be completely sure about this, and there's always a chance that the real Ocelet has a good reason to not claim.
 
 Also, I honestly don't think that CS is a vanilla townie, after last game he played.
 I don't think randomness is a vanilla townie either.[
 
 Anyways, for now I'll vote: Vote: Comrade Stalin "
[21:08] Powerdaan: Busy and tired.
[21:08] Powerdaan: Besides that
[21:08] Powerdaan: CS has played so rational in AAO XV.
[21:09] Powerdaan: Its just odd that he does this again.
[21:09] Powerdaan: And other people voted him as well.
[21:09] negsnego: You're saying that AwayAway is probably Ocelot because you see there's no other way around it. If you go against him, you're seen as Mafia. However, you're being flishy-flashy by stating the obvious in the next sentence. Trying to cause some minor paranoia (incidentally, Gerk was paranoid and then you went to vote him... hmmm...).
[21:10] negsnego: Then you go and vote Stalin. There was no reason to do that and I think it was more like a "hey guys, I'm active" kinda thing.
[21:11] negsnego: But after that, all your posts up until the one in which you voted for Gerk are not contributive.
[21:11] Powerdaan: Ah.
[21:11] Powerdaan: I think that was only 1 post?
[21:11] Powerdaan: Oh yeah and the I love girls thing
[21:11] Powerdaan: But that was for lulz and I was bored.
[21:11] negsnego: And when you vote Gerk, you're doing it because Gerk was paranoid. You were TRYING TO CAUSE PARANOIA YOURSELF!
[21:12] negsnego: Also, it's normal to be paranoid. Gerk did nothing scummy.
[21:12] negsnego: There were two posts.
[21:13] negsnego: And the latest post of yours... You're being confused and paranoid about the riddle plan as if you were opposing it.
[21:13] negsnego: Even though Zilla had already stated that GP blew a hole to it.
[21:13] Powerdaan: I haven't been paying attention a lot.
[21:13] Powerdaan: And well there's no other excuse than that?
[21:13] Powerdaan: I might've lost interest in mafia a little.
[21:13] Powerdaan: IDK
[21:14] negsnego: I think that's a lot of excuses. You're playing scummy.
[21:14] Powerdaan: You're playing annoying.
[21:14] negsnego: To be honest, if you play a round of Mafia, you should read the thread.
[21:14] negsnego: Thank you.
[21:14] Powerdaan: I do.
[21:14] Powerdaan: I read the thread.
[21:15] Powerdaan: Just not paying attention.
[21:15] Powerdaan: A lot.
[21:15] negsnego: ...
[21:15] negsnego: That's not reading.
[21:15] negsnego: That's skimming over.
[21:15] Powerdaan: It is.
[21:15] Powerdaan: Or that
[21:15] Powerdaan: xD
[21:15] negsnego: ...
[21:15] negsnego: One tip for you: you should read the thread. Especially since you are Mafia.
[21:15] Powerdaan: I'm not mafia.
[21:16] negsnego: I've heard otherwise.
[21:16] Powerdaan: From who?
[21:16] negsnego: From one of your scumbuddies.
[21:16] Powerdaan: lol
[21:16] Powerdaan: Scumbuddies wouldn't do that
[21:16] Powerdaan: Now would they?
[21:16] Powerdaan: This is like the worst bluff in history.
[21:16] Powerdaan: And show me a log
[21:16] negsnego: Oh? Maybe I got them confess and they slipped it out or hinted that way when they didn't mean to do that?
[21:17] negsnego: I'm not showing the Mafia any logs.
[21:17] Powerdaan: This is like the worst bluff ever.
[21:18] Powerdaan: I'm not going to fall for this.
[21:18] negsnego: Ok. Then what are you going too for?
[21:18] negsnego: fall for*
[21:18] Powerdaan: I'm not mafia.
[21:18] Powerdaan: But if you think I am.
[21:18] Powerdaan: Make a case in thread.
[21:19] negsnego: I prefer talking via IM's.
[21:19] negsnego: Anyways, ask Furtzy if you don't believe me.
[21:19] Powerdaan: Why should I ask furtzy?
[21:20] negsnego: Eh
[21:20] negsnego: Because she's your scumbuddy?
[21:20] negsnego: The one who slipped the fact that you're Mafia?
[21:20] negsnego: Remember?
[21:20] Powerdaan: SHE BETRAYED ME
[21:20] Powerdaan: </3
[21:20] Powerdaan: She falsely claimed me as a mafian
[21:20] Powerdaan: Furtzy fan club is over.
[21:20] Powerdaan: Forever.
[21:21] negsnego: Was that a false claim?
[21:21] Powerdaan: false claim?
[21:21] Powerdaan: How do ya mean?
[21:21] negsnego: Are you saying that Furtzy falsely claimed you as a mafian?
[21:21] Powerdaan: Yep.
[21:21] Powerdaan: Duh.
[21:22] negsnego: I don't think so, to be honest.
[21:22] Powerdaan: I do think so.
[21:22] Powerdaan: To be honest.
[21:22] negsnego: You're scummy and I'm willing to believe her.
[21:22] negsnego: In that matter.
[21:23] Powerdaan: I might be scummy, but I gave you reasons for that.
[21:24] negsnego: To be honest, those reasons did not convince me.
[21:24] negsnego: Sure, I understand that you were not present yesterday
[21:24] negsnego: However, that does not make your posts not appear as scummy to me.
[21:26] negsnego: Ok.
[21:26] negsnego: I'm done with this.
[21:26] negsnego: This was all a test.
[21:26] negsnego: And you passed.
[21:26] negsnego: For now.
[21:26] Powerdaan: See.
[21:26] Powerdaan: I said so.
[21:26] negsnego: Furtzy told me nothing. I just wanted to see your reaction.
[21:26] Powerdaan: You bluffed.
[21:26] Powerdaan: I thought so.
[21:27] negsnego: Yes, you did. However, I still find your posts scummy and I'm going to keep an eye on you.
[21:27] negsnego: You did not.
[21:28] negsnego: You're telling your Mafia buddies that it was all a bluff just about right now, right?
[21:28] Powerdaan: O___________o
[21:28] Powerdaan: No.
[21:28] negsnego: That's why it's taking you so long to reply?
[21:28] Powerdaan: I'm talking to Sinbad.
[21:28] negsnego: Ok.
[21:35] negsnego: Well, anyways.
[21:35] negsnego: What do you think of Randomness?
[21:40] Powerdaan: She's obviously a town role or a mafia role.
[21:41] Powerdaan: She made this weird comment about vanilla townies when the game started.
[21:41] Powerdaan: And I can't shake it off.
[21:46] negsnego: She/He is a new player.
[21:46] Powerdaan: I know that.
[21:46] Powerdaan: But still.
[21:46] negsnego: So? Maybe the concept of a vanilla is new to him/her?
[22:12] Powerdaan: Sorry didn't notice you.
[22:12] Powerdaan: I guess that's possible.
[22:13] negsnego: Yeah. It is. It's more than possible to be honest.
[22:13] negsnego: At least I'd think so.
[22:13] Powerdaan: You could also be scum covering up for your scumbuddy.
[22:13] Powerdaan: Since you've been playing rather aggresive yourself.
[22:14] negsnego: Ah. True. That is also a possibility.

I took the liberty of deleting a section from the end. This section had nothing to do with the game. I'm sure Powerdaan can confirm this unless he's trying to make me a lynch target.

[Spaceship]

I'm going to miss the Professor. He always a bright spot in the droll of lack of discussion and I'm with everyone on the possibility he was hit simply from past experience seeing as he did nothing but spout his usual...rhetoric.

I've been trying to make a list of FoS but school wifi is sloooow. Will update later.

[Powerdaan]

I can confirm that the last bit of the convo had nothing to do with the game.

Anyways, I'm off to bed in 10 minutes, I'll try to check on in the morning tomorrow, but I probably won't make it online until 3 PM my time, which is 9 AM EST.

[Zer0es]

Quote from: Zer0es on Today at 07:58:13 AM
Away probably didn't get hit because Liquid used his power. Although why Liquid chose Professor, I really don't know. Even Away seems to be confused.

May I enquire from you how is it that you know that Liquid chose Professor and not CJ? I mean, I have no clue which one was the Mafia hit and which one the Liquid hit. Care to elaborate?

Oh, because I was responding to Powerdaan, and Powerdaan was operating under the assumption that CS hit CJ because CJ was one of the first to vote him. Sorry, I should have been more clearer.

[Azhrei]

Would it not also be a good idea to see logs from Powerdaan's convo with Sinbad then? To see proof? Also, am I just being paranoid and asking the unneccesary?

Cut by Zer0es

[forbs]

Its exam week so I probably won't be active at all till Thursday. That is all.

[AwayAway]

The description of the hits heavily implied that CJ was the zerker kill. I'll ask the GM to confirm this, but I had been operating under that assumption.

[Sakuro]

Gerk - I'm still suspicious of him because of his move yesterday, and he also played a game with Professor befre.

Powerdaan, what happened to your suspicions of Gerkuman?  You haven't mentioned him yet Day 2, even though you wanted to lynch him yesterday.

-insert PAY ATTENTION banner here?-

Anywho, I think the observations on Stalin are the most interesting, at the moment, though before I voted for him I'd want to hear him address the accusations first. I don't really think killing CJ would be ~too obvious~, really. Also; I haven't really played with him, but I've sort of watched a lot of games with Stalin in them. Isn't he usually more active then this? I was under the impression he was almost a spammer. XD And he's been around on AAO, sooo. Actually he's online AAO like, right now. >>

Also also; PUPPIIESSSSS that husky is kind of scary though. XD

[Zilla]

-insert PAY ATTENTION banner here?-

It's there.

Code: [Select]

PAYATTENTION!

Though it appears not to be working. 

*trots off to fix*

[Comrade Stalin]

First off:

THIS IS A BS CASE

This a major failzorz on the part of the town. You say I shouldn't be so defensive yet now you want me to defend myself? I'll defend myself just because if I don't it'll poor play and I still don't wanna die, not this early.

On the fact of me claiming nilla townie, that's WIFOM. (I think?) You can say I was lying or that I wasn't, but I wasn't lying. >_> I am Vanilla Townie, no if's but's and's or or's. That's completely debatable, and DOES NOT label me as scum Trucy. I can say that you haven't claimed Nilla Townie and have the same effect. It's the same thing as claiming or NOT claiming.

As for being defensive, you guys wanted a CS that played, you got one. I hate it because you still think it's not me to actually play. I proved that last game. I CAN PLAY. If I DON'T play, you lynch me. So I'd rather defend myself. I'd rather be more defensive than offensive. I can stop defending if you want...? O_o

And what else is there against me? >_> I really have NO idea where you got the idea I'm killer from, Trucy. I'm suspecting a mafia led lynch somewhere in here (not saying it's you Trucy).

That's all for now, I'm on AIM. If you care to debate my death. <_<

[Zilla]

It works now.

[AntiRoyalty]

CS, even if you didn't claim nilla town, my vote was all gut instinct. Go ahead and defend yourself, it's not like we've shut our ears to your words. Who said you were being defensive? I can't say that I enjoy seeing you in hysterics with, what, 3 votes on you, but that's natural (if a bit over done.)

Someone else can present a case, too, y'know. Didn't Jordan say something about Wonko?

[AwayAway]

CS, even if you didn't claim nilla town, my vote was all gut instinct. Go ahead and defend yourself, it's not like we've shut our ears to your words. Who said you were being defensive? I can't say that I enjoy seeing you in hysterics with, what, 3 votes on you, but that's natural (if a bit over done.)

Someone else can present a case, too, y'know. Didn't Jordan say something about Wonko?

The Wonko case is contingent on Stalin being mafia. He is highly suspect if Stalin flips Infiltration Team, but not so much if Stalin is a nilla.

[Zilla]

The description of the hits heavily implied that CJ was the zerker kill. I'll ask the GM to confirm this, but I had been operating under that assumption.

To bring up something maybe relevant, the roster post reads

Professor Baron PHD Genome Soldier (Night 1 Hit)
CJ Master Genome Soldier (Night 1 Kill)

Make what you will of it.

[Spaceship]

The Stalin case doesn't really hold any merit for me and I'm still having trouble keeping everyone straight. Are we still possibly considering randomness with his odd behavior?

[Comrade Stalin]

If someone could post a new case against me, I'd be happy to reply.

[AntiRoyalty]

derp.

We're not looking for more evidence against Stalin, we're looking for a case that actually makes sense.

That being said, I still think Stalin's killer/mafia.

[nadroj15]

Unvote

for now, since my original reasons for voting him rely on CS's flip.

[AwayAway]

Can I get everyone who submitted an answer to the riddle to PM me what they sent?

[Zilla]

Suggestion for your benefit

Good thing to know I just discovered about PMing:

I personally find these options very useful.  PMs can be viewed in a "threaded" style, where conversations are kept separate.  They only take up one line in the inbox, and make finding the PMs you're looking for easier. 

This can be changed  in "My Messages > Preferences > Change Settings > "Display Personal Messages: As a conversation"

I also suggest checking "Save a copy of each personal message in my outbox by default" which is found on the same page.

[AwayAway]

The blue claims need to post more and talk to each other more. Lots of words. Otherwise, I'm going to abandon legitimate threads and just start whipping the scrub-brush full auto.

[Zilla]

Vote Tally
unspoilered for being fail-short:

Comrade Stalin: 3
AntiRoyalty
PrinnyBaal
Powerdaan

Wonkothesane: 0
nadroj15


Edit: I'd be interested in chatting up anyone who doesn't have me via IM.  I'm on all the popular clients, check out the icons to the left and shoot me a message; I grow weary of talking to the same people day after day.

[Spaceship]

Tomorrow night SHOULD be the last night of school rape, hopefully I'll be available after that.

[Zilla]

Tomorrow night SHOULD be the last night of school rape, hopefully I'll be available after that.

This feels, so far, like Barry Allen circa AAOXIV all over again~  Just saying.


The Real Point


Why I don't think Stalin's mafia:
I don't find Trucy's argument that great.  Apparently many other don't as well.

[00:45:10] AwayAway: I've been told by a bajillion people that it's not a good case, but no one is posting as such in thread

Yet no one's tried to derail it.  With a case this shaky, if Stalin were mafia, they'd try to move it onto someone else.

Daan FoS'd some people, Spaceship in-thread said the case didn't have much weight, but nothing to derail the slow-moving train.

Trucy herself said:

We're not looking for more evidence against Stalin, we're looking for a case that actually makes sense.

That being said, I still think Stalin's killer/mafia.

When the person who made the argument pretty much says it's a fail~case, and no one tries to derail it?
Seriously doubting the mafia wouldn't try, even a little, but no.  Not a single vote on anyone other than Stalin.

I will give you that he may be the killer, but I'm feeling really certain he's not mafia. 

[AwayAway]

It'd be nice if everyone opposed to the Stalin lynch said so in thread (and I do mean everyone).

Additionally, though, we are enforcing unanimous voting today due to Otacon's power. However, I will gladly hop bandwagons if someone brings up a better one. If someone has a better target, make a case. If you've been 'townhunting' and want to say that 1-16 people are town, go for it. Lots of words.

[Blood]

So, Stalin, forgive me if my reading comprehension has taken a severe dip, but you seem livid that people are attempting to lynch you; which is duly noted, nobody likes to get chopped up for stew. But as far as I know, no oneminus Trucy has directly said D< I ACCUSE STALIN OF BEING MAFIA. You seem town to me - I wouldn't lynch you right now. Do you think you could do something other than ask for a case against you? You seem rather eager to have a new case to shoot down. You could, you know... post a case, or something? Not just complain that we're lynching you too early? *shot for hypocrisy*

That being said, I agree with Trucy's logic; however unsure I am about the outcome of the logic.

so away^2 can you send the money to my p.o box kthnx

Away and Zilla used Cut! It's super effective! Blood faints!

But yes I also... concur with Zilla. :D Look I used my big girl words. *shot again*

[Gerkuman]

Still busy with life and stuff. Darn uni work!

[AntiRoyalty]

You guys need to understand that my vote was made on gut and instinct. Close to zero logic has been used.

Zilla, I see your point on him being not-mafia, but I firmly believe that if he was town, people would magically conjure up more evidence on him and we'd have, say, 10 votes on him rather than the 3 we have now. Even now, I think he's killer, but feel free to convince me otherwise.

Also, I resent the TW because they're making the genomes do all the work.

[Azure Flame]

VOTE:Comrade Stalin

I've thought of other cases and this one is the best in my opinion. Stalin has made it a point to say oer and over and over and over again that he is blue. It's just at the ridiculous point. So I'm sticking with the vote I made yesterday.

[Furtzy]

Guys, y'know how you were voting Stalin and FoS'ing randomness 'cause they claimed 'nilla townie in thread?

Did you miss this?

PM received, reporting for duty. I will work to be the best genome cloned soldier possible.

... So yeah, it begins. Suppose we'll be off to a random start so I may as well just leave this open in a second tab or something.

Just thought it was something to bring up. =3=

I'll be moar active once my exams are over, promises :D

Also, Blood's playing? >___>

[PrinnyBaal]

Yea. Bloods in the game.

And yeah, to be honest, I wanted to make a Puc joke there, but sadly I doubt anyone here would know that. Maybe a few from AAO, but other than that I doubt it.

Seriously, Puc and I have such an entertaining relationship. It's so fun having a murd- sister. Sister watching you.

Yea. Anyway, to be honest, I'm surprised CS hasn't gone for the way out I provided on my vote- but I guess he hasn't noted that, namely that the reason I voted him was because he didn't return my last few PMs, and I figured unless he was willing to at least chat in the most minor of terms, I wouldn't bother giving him however many turns till it would become a problem.

So, yeah. Still waiting for a PM or other comment CS. You should have an unreplied PM or two from me in your inbox eh? I don't care if you just reply a single sentence at this point, I'll still unvote when I get on to see. Just remember if you just shut down all discussion... it'll end up with us in the same spot.

[Powerdaan]

Yea. Bloods in the game.

And yeah, to be honest, I wanted to make a Puc joke there, but sadly I doubt anyone here would know that. Maybe a few from AAO, but other than that I doubt it.

Seriously, Puc and I have such an entertaining relationship. It's so fun having a murd- sister. Sister watching you.

Yea. Anyway, to be honest, I'm surprised CS hasn't gone for the way out I provided on my vote- but I guess he hasn't noted that, namely that the reason I voted him was because he didn't return my last few PMs, and I figured unless he was willing to at least chat in the most minor of terms, I wouldn't bother giving him however many turns till it would become a problem.

So, yeah. Still waiting for a PM or other comment CS. You should have an unreplied PM or two from me in your inbox eh? I don't care if you just reply a single sentence at this point, I'll still unvote when I get on to see. Just remember if you just shut down all discussion... it'll end up with us in the same spot.

Can you convince Puc to play mafia? Please? Please? Please? *shot*

Anyways, I'll be around for an hour or something now, but I will be offline for the rest of the night because I have to go to some kind of school thing about colleges and university and stuff even though its 2.5 years away for me >_>

[Zilla]

Oh, guys.  Away brought up the "unanimous voting" thing before, but another point.

If a) We target a mafia member unanimously and b) we do not put over 10 votes on him, the following will happen.

The mafia will vote on someone not-them.  Someone: 1; Mafia; 10.
Otacon will move 5 votes.  Someone: 6; Mafia: 5
This wastes a lynch, and moreso, gives the wildcard someone to contact.
[And we all know wildcards love to affiliate with the mafia, amirite Balrog?]


We need to decide, and we need to put 11+ votes on the single player. 

[Balrog]

[And we all know wildcards love to affiliate with the mafia, amirite Balrog?]

I'LL RIP OFF YOUR HEAD AND SHIT DOWN YOUR THROAT.

[randomness]

If a) We target a mafia member unanimously and b) we do not put over 10 votes on him, the following will happen.

The mafia will vote on someone not-them.  Someone: 1; Mafia; 10.
Otacon will move 5 votes.  Someone: 6; Mafia: 5
This wastes a lynch, and moreso, gives the wildcard someone to contact.
[And we all know wildcards love to affiliate with the mafia, amirite Balrog?]


We need to decide, and we need to put 11+ votes on the single player.

Good idea Zilla for the 11+ votes, that can eliminate possible tampering.

Now we need to decide who's getting voted for as a group preferably.

[AwayAway]

Balrog, are you opposed to a Stalin lynch?

[Nego]

Ok, so, I forgot to post my list of suspicion last night. I'll do it now:

I suspect Powerdaan and Furtzy to be Mafia. It's a gut I had when reading their posts, so nothing more.

Also, if we are going to choose a lynch target, I'd like to see it in less than an hour as I have to leave then and I won't propably be online before the PC. Or then I'll just skip voting and let you guys do everything.


Also: I don't see why Stalin should be lynched.

[Balrog]

Balrog, are you opposed to a Stalin lynch?

Actually, that sounds quite nice. 

[Zilla]

[12:59:07] forb23: you're mafia
[12:59:12] Zilla: You're wrong.
[12:59:20] forb23: no I'm not
[12:59:23] Zilla: Ok.
[12:59:24] forb23: zilla always mafia
[12:59:24] Zilla: Why?
[12:59:26] Zilla: Oh.
[12:59:32] Zilla: That's all you have?
[12:59:38] forb23: that's all I need
[12:59:45] Zilla: Ok.
[12:59:56] Zilla: I'll go confess to the town now.
[12:59:59] forb23: okay

[Wonkothesane]

that settles it, we lynch Zilla.

At the rate that this is going we will probably be lynching Stalin, which I would most certainly didn't agree with at first but something in this post just made me suspicious.

First off:

THIS IS A BS CASE

This a major failzorz on the part of the town. You say I shouldn't be so defensive yet now you want me to defend myself? I'll defend myself just because if I don't it'll poor play and I still don't wanna die, not this early.

On the fact of me claiming nilla townie, that's WIFOM. (I think?) You can say I was lying or that I wasn't, but I wasn't lying. >_> I am Vanilla Townie, no if's but's and's or or's. That's completely debatable, and DOES NOT label me as scum Trucy. I can say that you haven't claimed Nilla Townie and have the same effect. It's the same thing as claiming or NOT claiming.

As for being defensive, you guys wanted a CS that played, you got one. I hate it because you still think it's not me to actually play. I proved that last game. I CAN PLAY. If I DON'T play, you lynch me. So I'd rather defend myself. I'd rather be more defensive than offensive. I can stop defending if you want...? O_o

And what else is there against me? >_> I really have NO idea where you got the idea I'm killer from, Trucy. I'm suspecting a mafia led lynch somewhere in here (not saying it's you Trucy).

That's all for now, I'm on AIM. If you care to debate my death. <_<

It just doesn't seem like Stalin...

EDIT: It would also be nice if we could make a decision quickly, I have to go to class before PC

[Balrog]

So, uh, should we just do it then?

Vote: Comrade Stalin

[AwayAway]

Townies: Curse you town watch! We want to play too!

Away^2: Go scumhunt kids. I'm gonna see what I can ID from voting patterns.

Townies: Who are we lynching Town Watch? Why make the blues do all the work?

Away^2: zzzz

[Wonkothesane]

Vote: Stalin

it is a sad, sad day when Wonko asks for people to be active.....

right now we need at least 11 votes on Stalin (I think), and unless we get those votes this may and probably will end badly.

[Balrog]

I wanted to vote Stalin, but then I was told we should all vote together, so I sort of waited around expecting to hear from others. Not a lot was said. :L

[Zilla]

Vote Tally

Comrade Stalin: 6
AntiRoyalty
PrinnyBaal
Powerdaan
Azure Flame
Balrog
Wonkothesane

Wonkothesane: 0
nadroj15

[AwayAway]

Vote: Stalin

it is a sad, sad day when Wonko asks for people to be active.....

right now we need at least 11 votes on Stalin (I think), and unless we get those votes this may and probably will end badly.

Nah. Nothing bad happens if there's no split vote. Mafia can't switch votes onto someone nobody voted for.

[Wonkothesane]

Unless Stalin is mafia and votes for someone else, enabling the mafia to use that power.

[Zilla]

Nah. Nothing bad happens if there's no split vote. Mafia can't switch votes onto someone nobody voted for.

If Stalin's mafia and he votes for someone else (Or just the latter, perhaps), Otacon can switch the votes.
Good strategy for prolonging a mafia's life and wasting a day.



Cut by Wonk. 
I worded it better